• Rape Girl is “Evil” (and thus deserves it?) – Matt Dillahunty Disconnects Christian Caller

    Matt Dillahunty, renowned presented of the Atheist Experience, disconnected a Christian caller when they retorted, when discussing a rape case, that the girl was “just as evil as you”, and thus implying that she deserved it.

    To be fair, in many understandings of Christianity, this is the natural conclusion that many must come to, given some of the problematic premises. This is how The Raw Story reports it:

    Hosts of the Atheist Experience cable access show in Austin hung up on a Christian caller over the weekend after he suggested that God might not stop the rape of a little girl because the victim was also “evil.”Atheists Tracie Harris and Matt Dillahunty

    A Christian viewer from Phoenix named Shane called in to Sunday’s show with the hopes of convincing host Matt Dillahunty and co-host Tracie Harris that the fact that even atheists had a “moral code” proved of the existence of God.

    “Divine command theory, the religious proposition that God dictates morality is in fact immoral,” Dillahunty explained to the caller. “It forces you to sacrifice your humanity and pollutes your moral compass because you are stuck doing whatever this God supposedly says is good, whether or not it’s actually good. And we already know that there are, for example, commands in the Bible that are not morally correct.”

    “I think you’re more moral than your God and you just haven’t figured it out yet,” Harris added.

    “Why is God so immoral?” the caller asked.

    “I don’t think that God exists but if we’re talking about the God character in Bible as God is represented, you know, it’s a pretty horrible, jealous, angry being that advocates slavery,” Dillahunty pointed out. “I don’t know why he’s that way. Maybe he’s just a dick.”

    “You either have a God who sends child rapists to rape children or you have a God who simply watches it and says, ‘When you’re done, I’m going to punish you,’” Harris agreed. “If I could stop a person from raping a child, I would. That’s the difference between me and your God.”

    “First of all, you portray that little girl as someone who’s innocent, she’s just as evil as you,” the caller shot back.

    With that comment, Dillahunty disconnected the call.

    “Goodbye, you piece of shit!” he exclaimed. “You know what? I was a better Christian than you when I was a Christian, and I still am.”

    The entire the Atheist Experience broadcast is available here.

    Watch this video from Atheist Experience, broadcast Jan. 6, 2013.

     

    Oh dear.

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    Article by: Jonathan MS Pearce

    • ZedZero

      I was at a xian vs atheist debate when the thought experiment of the 5 children and the old man on the trolley tracks came up. The atheist asked the xian what would you do? The xian said “nothing, it is god’s will”. The atheist lost that debate I thought, at least in terms of being coherent and consistent.

    • You mean the thought experiment where you can save 5 children by pushing the old man on the tracks? I recall reading about that thought experiment from Sam Harris. To me, for some reason, I cannot picture how pushing a man on tracks would somehow dislodge a train from its track. If anything, it would kill the old man and also kill the children.

      However, the thought experiment makes an assumption that doing this will in fact save the children. I, personally do not know how I will react if I was put in this situation. I may freeze or stand in unbelief before I could do something. Sometimes the mind doesn’t work as fast as you would like it to. So, the thought experiment still doesn’t let you off the hook because it is asking you to reflect on it now in a rational state. Ok, fine, I guess in a rational state, reflecting on it, being of sound mind, I would probably push the old man. Why? Well, if by doing that, it saves the lives of 5 children who have their whole life in front of them, to me seems more rational rather than say an old man who has lived many years already.

      What would you do?

      • ZedZero

        The thought experiment has a few permutations. Kids on rail 1, old man on rail 2, you at the switch to chose which gets run down. Next is kids on track to be run down you and old man in between, on overpass bridge together. Your choice is to push the old man off the bridge onto the tracks to scare the engineer into stopping.
        Most people will kill the old man remotely but, will not push him. It is a tactile personal revulsion thing that makes the moral choice.
        My calculation would be of personal liability. I would act on either’s behalf if I could escape liability but, if I thought I would be liable for saving the kids I would rather walk away. I am not sure how the law would view this, but I doubt it exempts the deliberate killing of an innocent for any reason. 

    • ZedZero

      This video has been posted on the popular Mediaite web site. Somebody is going get an even bigger head.