• Christian: Cannot Convince An Atheist With Evidence

    Actually, I’d settle for valid evidence.

    I’m a pretty open-minded kind of person, so it really bothers me when Christians tell me that no evidence would convince me that their God exists. I mean in a sense, I guess they are right in that there actually is no evidence that has convinced me, but I think it is a copout to say that my “heart has been hardened” to the point where no evidence could possibly convince me.

    While I can’t speak for all atheists, I can say that I have a fairly good record of changing my opinions and beliefs based on new information and evidence. I have even changed my belief on the existence of God. Yes, I grew up believing in God and now I don’t. My view has changed. Yet most religious believers have grown up indoctrinated into their religion and have not changed their mind. Some might not have taken their religion all that seriously and then become more religious as they got older, but I think it is fair to say that most Christians in America were raised by Christian parents and have lived their lives in a predominantly Christian society.

    Anyway, back to me. Yes, I am capable and even willing to change my belief about the existence of God based on actual evidence. However, it has to be real evidence and not just some Sunday School platitude like, “the world is evidence.” No, the world is not evidence of the existence of God any more than rainbows are evidence of the existence of Leprechauns. No, I need actual evidence.

    Coincidences also don’t count as evidence. I remember a woman in one of my religion classes in college saying that she became a believer because she was short on money for the bus, prayed about it, and then found .65 cents in the couch cushion. I don’t know, maybe if the .65 cents magically appeared in her hand or fell from the sky or something, I might consider that something, but as it is, loose change often falls out of people’s pockets when they sit on the couch and when you are actively looking for loose change and find it, I don’t really see that as strong evidence for the existence of a deity.

    So what would it take? Well, I do have a few ideas. I mean if I saw an amputee have his or her limb regrow in front of my eyes with no scientific explanation, that would certainly cause me to pause and consider. But to be honest, I don’t think I would immediately jump to the conclusion that, “God did it.”

    Yes, I am a pretty hard sell. I mean even if an amputee’s limb regrew in front of my face, I still might not consider that a miracle of God. If that wouldn’t necessarily convince me, what would? To be honest, I really don’t know. But do you know who would know? God!

    Yeah, Mr. All-knowing God would know exactly what it would take to convince me. So I guess if God exists, he knows what would convince me. Therefore, the fact that I’m still an atheist is his damn fault. He knows where I live. Come over here and show yourself; you know what you need to do.

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    Article by: Staks Rosch

    Staks Rosch is a writer for the Skeptic Ink Network & Huffington Post, and is also a freelance writer for Publishers Weekly. Currently he serves as the head of the Philadelphia Coalition of Reason and is a stay-at-home dad.

    4 comments

    1. Quite simply, the whole “closed your heart to the evidence of god” is without basic sense anyway. After all, evidence has nothing to do with the heart, subjective feeling or choice. Evidence is defensible, testable information that operates regardless of the individual. Open heart, closed mind.

    2. There is no irrefutable evidence that God exists; if there were, it would be a matter of science and faith would cease to exist. So no, you will never get 100% undisputed proof that God exists. But that does not mean that faith in God is illogical or unreasonable. Let me ask you, are you confident your friends will be there for you when you’re in need? Do you believe your significant other would never cheat on you? If you weighed all the facts and said yes, you have given an answer based entirely on faith. You have no 100% irrefutable evidence of these things, but you made an informed decision to believe in them based on what you know. Belief in God is no different. Here are some thoughts to consider:

      1. Most religions feature gods of finite power, wisdom, and love, that are basically humans with supernatural powers. Can you imagine a god who is all-knowing, all-loving, and all-powerful? I certainly can’t. Most gods were made in the image of man, but an omnipotent, all-loving God is nothing at all like humankind. Where do you think humans got the idea that such a being existed? Only Christianity, Islam, and Judaism feature such a god, and I do not think the idea would exist unless said God put it in their heads first.

      2. That Jesus lived and died is a matter of fact; secular historians like Josephus documented his life. How did a poor carpenter from Nazareth with no money or connections found the most widespread and influential religious faith of all time, despite persecution from both the Jewish clergy and the Roman Empire? It defies logic and everything we know about human nature…unless Jesus performed miracles.

      3. What caused the Big Bang? What are the origins of life? There is no evidence, only speculation. If you accept the secular view of these matters, you are taking it on faith just as much as people who believe in God are. Claiming an omnipotent being did it is actually the more scientifically sound explanation than “it just happened,” “life came from non-life,” or “it came from a comet” (where did the comet come from then?)

      4. The Bible is the most widely read, (mis)translated, and misunderstood piece of literature of all time. It has been roughly two thousand years since the time of Christ, and the gospel that is preached today is virtually unrecognizable as the same gospel preached by the early church fathers. Many mainstream Christians are modern-day Pharisees, and they are blind to the massive amount of damage they have done to the church’s reputation. Proving these people wrong is not the same as proving Christianity itself is wrong; claiming otherwise would be a logical fallacy. Many of the sticking points for atheists have a perfectly good answer, only most Christians are too ignorant of their own faith and holy book to be able to answer those questions properly.

      Just to be clear, I’m not trying to proselytize or anything, just discuss the issue civilly. If you do decide to seek God though, you will eventually find Him. But don’t worry, you’re not going to hell if you don’t (hell was invented by man, not God).

    3. I have asked both god and lucifer to come and show me that their real. I didn’t get a response from either of them. I do believe in some form of both but not in the way we perceive being real. How would you know good without having experienced evil. Light without dark. Sincerely Dewey Robinson

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