• The atheist rift for dummies

    Yesterday, some Jeremiah Traeger posted something related to the atheist rift that was so wrong on so many levels, I just had to set the record straight. According to him, the atheist rift is between people who care about social justice, and people who don’t. That’s not, by any stretch, what the atheist rift is about.

    There’s only one rift within the organized atheist movement:

    It’s between people who follow Enlightenment principles (freedom of speech and thought, free discussion of ideas, skepticism, tolerance for different world views) and those who believe in authoritarian principles (ideological purity, a list of topics which are beyond rational discussion, dogmatism, intolerance for anyone who disagrees)

    We all (or the majority of us) care about women’s rights, LGBTQ issues, racism, and social equality in general, and we understand that religion has played large roles contributing to bigotry and discrimination. We get it.

    The rift has nothing to do with the ends —most of us agree on those— but with the means. We, on the Enlightenment side, want equality, we just want to achieve it without resorting to what we hate about religion.

    That’s all there is to it. If you’re part of the organized atheist movement, odds are you care about all the social ills in which religion has played a role, and want to help fight those wrongs somehow.

    The atheist rift is about how you’re gonna play things. There’s more to say about this, but that’s for future posts.

    For now, let’s just leave it like this: do you think it’s okay to lower your standard of conduct to the level of religionists, just because you have the right causes?

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    Article by: Ðavid A. Osorio S

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    • There are a handful of handy litmus tests to determine where one stands on the rift.

    • Unhiddenness

      I don’t think it’s as simple as that; there are those who are opposed to women’s rights, for example. But the problem on the SJW side is that they simply can’t accept that conservative atheists should be a part of the movement. Neither side can separate their politics from their atheism/skepticism.

      • Hi @unhiddenness:disqus, I am for women’s rights, and (besides the ‘prolife’ atheists that Friendly Atheist features once in a while) I haven’t seen anyone arguing against women’s rights (and I mean rights, not quotas, not affirmative action, not lower standard’s misogyny, but rights).

        Could you send me some links where someone from the atheist community argues against women voting, or abortion, or sex-ed, or having the same treatment before the law as men do?

        I would appreciate that.

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