• I support Atheist Ireland against Paul Zachary Myers’ behavior

    Yesterday, Atheist Ireland took stand against PZ Myers:

    Atheist Ireland is publicly dissociating itself from the hurtful and dehumanising, hateful and violent, unjust and defamatory rhetoric of the atheist blogger PZ Myers. The final of many, many straws were his latest smear that Ayaan Hirsi Ali is ‘happily exploiting atrocities’, and his subsequent description of Atheist Ireland’s chairperson as ‘the Irish wanker’. We are also asking all ethical organisations and individuals to consider how you can help to reverse his harmful impact on both individuals and the atheist movement generally.
    […]

    Atheist Ireland has previously given PZ Myers public platforms in Ireland, both at the World Atheist Convention in 2011, and at our international conference in 2013 on Empowering Women Through Secularism. We now apologise for doing this. We believe his behaviour is unjust to individuals, increases prejudice against atheists, and is harmful to the promotion of an ethical society based on empathy, fairness, justice and integrity.

    I won’t bore anyone with listing the tons of evidence about the self righteousness of Myers and his ridiculous dogmas.

    I can’t see how he could be an ally of secular humanism, secularism, secular values, liberal values or the Enlightenment project.

    I can only speak for myself, so I’ll just invite anyone who cares about social issues, religious privilege and the separation of church and state to follow suit and support Atheist Ireland in their stand.

    It’s a shame other organisations such as American Atheists and the Atheist Alliance International haven’t said a word on this issue: there’s plenty of evidence PZ Myers is a bully and he will actively promote and engage in all kind of harassment and defamation of anyone who dares to disagree with him.

    I don’t know what secular values other organisations hold, but I think we should ask ourselves how can we trust them with doing the right thing when religious bullies start peddling their bigotry, when they can’t even bring themselves to stand up to a bully in their own backyard. Hey, guys, take a stand!

    As of now, I have removed any ‘Freethought’ Blogs blog from my feed. So far, their admin, Ed Brayton has failed to answer three e-mails by Michael Nugent about Myers’ behaviors and defamation. I can only understand that as a tacit approval of said behavior; I won’t participate on that and I wouldn’t understand how any so-called freethinker would. (Yes, dear Maryam Namazie, by remaining with them you’re enabling this behavior.)

    To sum up: I’d like to congratulate Atheist Ireland for taking the lead in dissociating from a person that hurts our cause and thinks he’s entitled to just because he got readers.

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    Article by: Ðavid A. Osorio S

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    • SmilodonsRetreat

      I stopped reading long ago, even some of the good ones. And I am glad that one secular organization has taken a stand against him.

      How can we (as a group) expect to change the world when we won’t stand up to one person?

      • SmilodonsRetreat

        The irony is that PZ is the guy who taught me to always check my sources and confirm my statements before publishing them.

      • Really good question.

    • Clare45

      Good for Michael Nugent and Atheist Ireland. I may be able to help get Canadian Humanists on side with this as well.

    • whatever

      Hear Hear!

    • ThePrussian

      Not a moment too soon. Some of us had his number a long time ago.

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    • Joe G

      PZ isn’t a bully, he’s a coward

    • iamcuriousblue

      “Atheist Ireland has previously given PZ Myers public platforms in
      Ireland, both at the World Atheist Convention in 2011, and at our
      international conference in 2013 on Empowering Women Through Secularism.
      We now apologise for doing this. We believe his behaviour is unjust to
      individuals, increases prejudice against atheists, and is harmful to the
      promotion of an ethical society based on empathy, fairness, justice and
      integrity.”

      I kind of wish AI would take a similar stance regarding their giving a platform to the similarly-vile Kate Smurthwaite at Empowering Women Through Secularism, but one battle at a time.

      BTW, I’ll note that a distinction needs to be made between this and the increasingly popular “no platform” stance SJ types have been adopting, especially those in the UK. I think freedom of association means any private organization has a right to deny its platform to anyone, and that a group offering its platform to a speaker is a privilege, not a right. And I certainly have no problem lobbying groups I support to deny a platform to those who’s behavior or ideas are beyond the pale, or simply don’t represent the core values of that group.

      I distinguish this from the idea that those who you ideologically oppose should have “no platform” anywhere at any time, and that it’s OK to deny them a platform via bullying. That crosses the line into censorship, and that’s not what I’m calling for wrt Myers or Smurthwaite. But Atheist Ireland absolutely has my support in not offering Myers a platform given his awful behavior.

      • Snoopy

        You should take a look at Twitter.

        Ron Lindsay (CFI) is cowering in fear of the FTBullies who’re attacking him for defending Hemant Mehta against the reprisal attacks from Skepchicks chief agitator Rebecca Watson (which published a hit piece against Mehta, claiming he had promoted a “hate forum” for merely mentioning the Slymepit).

        David Silverman (AA) is simply ignoring all and any requests to position himself on the matter. He’s stuffing his fingers in his ears, singing “lalala”.

        I’m surprised these people are such unbelievable cowards.

        • They can’t take a stand. It’s a shame. I guess I won’t be making donations anytime soon to coward organizations.

          At least, Lindsay had the balls to stand up for Mehta.

      • I think Myers should have platforms, but not New Atheist or Skeptic platforms.

        Third-wave, posmodernist, multicultural, victim-fabricating factories are a far better match for him.

    • I don’t think anyone should have to come out and make public pronouncements saying you support or don’t support other groups or individuals. AA and CFI and AI all have their own agendas and they all have things that they are doing, what difference does it make what some other group or person is doing? Should they have to constantly come out with a list of groups and people they support and another of groups and people they do not? PZ Myers is beneath notice, as are tons of other people. Who really cares what PZ says? He’s a troll, as are his group of co-trolls that hover around him. The worst thing that anyone can do is even acknowledge that he exists, they thrive on attention, even negative attention.

      • If he wasn’t a featured speaker at skepticism venues, I’d agree with you.

        He is, I don’t.

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    • Its amazing that the FtB group stands for social justice, yet issue shouts of abuse when they get called out for taking socially incorrect actions.

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