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Posted by on Dec 17, 2012 in Politics | 10 comments

Gun debate flares up as pro-gun senators concede change is needed

As the BBC reports:

Newtown shootings: Gun debate flares as funerals begin

A hearse carrying the casket of six-year-old Jack Pinto is driven to the Newtown Village Cemetery 17 December 2012

A hearse carrying the casket of six-year-old Jack Pinto enters the Newtown Village Cemetery

Two pro-gun US senators have called for changes to firearm laws, as the first victims of the Newtown school shootings were buried in Connecticut.

Democrats Mark Warner and Joe Manchin, who have “A” ratings from the National Rifle Association (NRA), now say action is needed after the massacre.

Noah Pozner and Jack Pinto, both aged six, were buried on Monday after funeral services attended by hundreds.

They were among 20 children and six adults killed at Sandy Hook school.

Other victims’ funerals will be held throughout the week, and the town has already begun removing Christmas decorations in mourning.

Two adults who were injured in the attack survived are recovering in hospital and would be crucial witnesses as police continue their investigation, it was confirmed on Monday.

Lt Paul Vance said they were recovering and would be interviewed at an appropriate time.

Children who witnessed the attack would also be interviewed – in the presence of parents and professionals – Lt Vance added.

The Sandy Hook gunman was named as Adam Lanza, who took his own life at the end of a killing spree that began with him shooting dead his own mother.

Change of opinion

Despite a long history of pro-gun views, West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin told US network MSNBC on Monday that it was time to “move beyond rhetoric” on gun control.

Mr Manchin, a gun owner and frequent hunter, said: “I don’t know anyone in the sporting or hunting arena that goes out with an assault rifle.”

“It’s common sense. It’s time to move beyond rhetoric. We need to sit down and have a common sense discussion and move in a reasonable way.”

Virginia Senator Mark Warner, another Democrat who has backed gun owner’s rights, told reporters outside the Virginia capitol that the “status quo isn’t acceptable”. He later called for “rational gun control” in an interview with a local news broadcaster.

Mr Warner said he had been approached repeatedly over the weekend as people began to seek answers and solutions.

On Sunday President Barack Obama told residents at a vigil in Newtown the US must do more to protect its children.

“We can’t tolerate this any more,” Mr Obama said. “These tragedies must end and to end them we must change.”

On Monday, White House spokesman Jay Carney said tighter gun control laws are part of the answer to violence in the US, but stressed that the president did not have a specific policy to announce.

“It’s a complex problem that will require a complex solution,” Mr Carney said. “No single piece of legislation, no single action will fully address the problem.”

He added that the president supports reinstating an assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.

California Senator Dianne Feinstein, a long-time advocate for gun regulations, said on Sunday she would introduce assault weapons ban legislation in the beginning of the next congressional session.

And New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a vocal backer of stricter regulation, called on Mr Obama and Congress to pass several gun regulation proposals, including requiring a criminal background check for all gun sales, making gun trafficking a felony and a ban on assault weapons.

‘Unspeakably tragic’

Newtown’s ordeal entered a new phase on Monday as Jack Pinto was buried in the Newtown Village Cemetery and Noah Pozner was buried at the B’Nai Israel Cemetery in the nearby town of Monroe.

The family of James Mattioli, six, also held a wake on Monday.

Noah Pozner, the youngest victim, was described by his family as inquisitive and mature for his age.

“It is unspeakably tragic that none of us can bring Noah back,” his uncle Alexis Haller said, according to remarks sent to the Associated Press.

“We would go to the ends of the earth to do so, but none of us can. What we can do is carry Noah within us, always.”

His twin sister, Arielle, who was assigned to a different classroom, survived.

Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy and Lt Gov Nancy Wyman were both at the funeral, presided over by a rabbi.

Map of worst 10 states for firearms murder in 2011, by rate. DC 12.5, LOUISIANA 8.8, SOUTH CAROLINA 4.8, MARYLAND 4.7, MISSISSIPPI 4.6, MISSOURI 4.6, MICHIGAN 4.6, TENNESSEE 3.8, GEORGIA 3.8, ARKANSAS 3.7. For comparison: CONNECTICUT 2.6, USA 2.8

Rate per 100,000 people
Source: FBI Uniform Crime Reports

In front of the funeral home, well-wishers placed two teddy bears, a bouquet of white flowers and a single red rose at the base of an old maple tree.

Later, hymns played at the funeral of Jack Pinto, described as a sports lover and a huge fan of New York Giants football player Victor Cruz – who wore the boy’s name inscribed on his boots during Sunday’s game.

At his funeral on Monday, many young children wore Newtown school football shirts.

One mourner, Gwendolyn Glover, told the Associated Press the funeral aimed to reassure others that they were now safe.

“The message was: You’re secure now. The worst is over,” she said.

The six-year-old was one of the youngest members of the Newtown youth wrestling association, and dozens of boys in gray Newtown wrestling shirts were at the funeral, as was his coach.

Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy has declared a moment of silence for the entire state on Friday morning at 09:00 local time, a week after the shooting. He asked houses of worship with bells to ring them 26 times – one for each victim at the school.

Mr Malloy has also signed an executive order making an unused school in neighbouring town immediately available for Sandy Hook’s students – with classes reported to be pencilled in for Wednesday.

It could be months before the school building is available for use again because it remains an active crime scene.

[UPDATE] As per the discussion below, I have added the following graph. This is Andy Schueler’s excellent home-made map which plots gun ownership per capita against gun deaths.

  • http://im-skeptical.myopenid.com/ im_skeptical

    “Virginia Senator Mark Warner, another Democrat who has backed gun owner’s rights,…”

    Although the issue has never really been about protecting the legitimate rights of gun owners, the NRA has managed to frame it as such.  The majority of Americans support reasonable measures to reduce this kind of madness, and the NRA takes the position that any gun control measure or any effort to help thwart criminal activity is an assult on freedom.  They oppose chemical taggants in gunpowder and restrictions on gun designs that are resistant to fingerprints.  It is evident that their true motivation has less to do with freedom than the profits of their sponsors, the  gun industry.

  • Andy_Schueler

    Just out of curiosity, I wanted to see how strong the correlation is between the number of guns per capita and the firearm related death rate in a country.
    I took the date for guns per capita and firearm related death rates from wikipedia:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_guns_per_capita_by_country
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
    and plotted both values against each other (only for “developed” countries according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country#Human_Development_Index_.28HDI.29 – using all countries does not substantially change the outcome)
    Here´s the result:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ieiwof402x6tbd/GunsPerCapitaVsFirearmRelatedDeathRate.png

  • Andy_Schueler

    As much as I hate to link to Fox News…

    The prospect of a renewed assault weapons ban in the wake of the
    Connecticut school massacre has set of a round of buying, as thousands
    of Americans head to their local gun store to secure the popular AR-15
    – the model used by the school gunman — before potential government
    prohibitions on their purchase.

    They are also buying the .223 ammunition used by the AR-15 and the
    type of high-capacity magazines covered under the last federal assault
    weapons ban, which Congress let expire without renewing.
    …..
    “Sales were through the roof on Saturday,” said Eaton. “People were
    buying everything they could out of fear the president would try to ban
    certain guns and high-capacity magazines.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/18/gun-sales-surge-after-connecticut-massacre/

    Why do people even want to have assault rifles ? I just don´t get that…

    • http://www.facebook.com/david.f.brunton David Fletcher Brunton

       In case they get attacked by those shifty non traditional americans who want “gifts” and stuff.

  • JeSyme

    Myth: Japan has strict gun control and a less violent society
    Fact: In Japan, the total murder rate is almost 1 per 100,000. In the U.S., there are about 3.2 murders per 100,000 people each year by weapons other than firearms.n This means that even if firearms in the U.S. could be eliminated, the U.S. would still have three times the murder rate of the Japanese. Whereas Japan’s murder rate may be low, its suicide rate is over 20 per 100,000 people. Combined, Japanese are being murdered and committing suicide at a rate of about 21 per 100,000. In the U.S., our combined murder and suicide rate is also about 21.

    n Reference: Japan data: 1996 Demographic Yearbook, United Nations, 1998; US data: FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, 1996.